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Lets talk about Gender...
...and try not to hurt each other with it. I recently read a quote by Andrew Cohen which I find very intriguing:
"The ego locates itself in [gender] identification in order to be able to see it's own reflection." I can't remember if he used the word gender there, but it occured to me at the time that it was a generic rule. It would work with any identification. So how does this relate to us as spiritual beings having a gender experience? Should we cease to identify with gender, or include it while transcending to a higher identification? What parts of gender to we leave behind? What parts do we take with us? How much is personal choice, and how much will be basically accross the board? I realize that not all sex/love relationships will include both genders. Does gender still play a part when there is no duality? Are homosexual relationships one way of avoiding the troubling dualistic conflicts found in personal relationships or do they still show up in another form? I've noticed some people identifying themselves as genderqueer. Can we talk about that? How many other politically incorrect things can we ask about gender? ~Ww |
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Lets hook it up!
I think this section should hold threads grouped by location. So, have at it! Country, State, Province, District, County... Keep the addresses and phone numbers for the private messages. Keep the messages simple here, no long monologues. Save that for themed threads in the other sections.
Just to be safe, check one another out before giving too much info. Please be careful and respectful to one another here! Don't violate this space with predatory crap. |
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Lets create a Transpersonal Relationship!
Not relationships, because that would arise out of seperation. But one large Trans-personal Relationship amongst and within us all. That should create a better trust space within which to play.
Read Andrew Cohen's blurb about the Birthday of Evolutionary Enlightenment. http://www.andrewcohen.org/notes/index.php?/weblog/blog/the_birth_of_evolutionary_enlightenment/ He uses the term "Impersonal" there, and I think he may be confusing pre with trans, but I think I see what he is getting at. Does anyone else have a way of describing this? |
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Lets explore sex!
This section is for discussing sexual inteligence and awareness and adventures. I want to see some serious effort put into describing what is going on in the interior, not just the physical exterior of these events. I've seen a few places on the web where people list their sexual accomplishments as if they were trophies to put on their rumpus room wall. This is only the exterior - the vehicle which transports the consciousness from one place to another in time and space. I wanna hear what the consciousness is experiencing during these wild rides. Lets see if we can find some patterns.
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This pod is for people who are interested in developing themselves along the transpersonal relational and sexual line. It will be for us to learn and to teach and, yes… to hook it up! It's way past time to get it on with God, don't ya think?
God help me, cuz I'm gonna make alot of mistakes. I'll need you all to help keep the catagories straight. That's part of the challenge anyway, right? Here's what I've got so far, anyone is invited to jump in with some better information or whatever…
- Pre-personal = I don't wanna know your name. I don't wanna meet your Momma. I just wanna fuck you and say, “thanks and goodbye” because anything beyond that destroys the intensity of the attraction. I don't really want to put my consciousness into you. I want to put it into my attraction.
- Personal = I love you and only you because it's all about you and I wanna marry you and have your babies and live happily ever after with you… but, why don't you love me? I want to put my consciousness into you, but I can't do it when you do really irritating things.
- Trans-personal = I love. I love all of you. I love all of you and you and you and you and you and you and you… You can be totally exposed to me and I will love you since I already know you because I am you. My consciousness is in the Highest Self, and you are already embraced there. We are never apart even as I love infinite yous.
The challenge is going to be to keep it trans-personal and not go too far into the other two camps. The reasons for avoiding the other two catagories are:
- Pre-personal reduces love, respect, consciousness and responsibility.
- Pre-personal increases exploitation, std's and unwanted pregnancies.
- Personal depends too much on the seperate identity to make it work, but then the seperate identity is the same thing that prevents it from working.
- Adopting roles in order to situate everyone together comfortably is inevitable when stuck in the Personal.
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It may be that some of this dating results in committed personal relationships. That is totally okay! For those who want to honor our Sacred Manifestations with sign or ritual, be blessed! But most of all bless one another with the gift of Transpersonal Love. It can go the distance where the Personal cannot.
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Make sure you offer one another, as well as allow one another to bring, your most Profound Presence into all of the deepest nooks and cranies of one another. That goes doubly so for the Shadow. Do not neglect this work. My other pod can help with that, as well as a few others here at zaadz. I read a quote off of C-4 Chaos's blog the other day from Ken Wilber that goes:
“We must forgive each other our arising, for our existence always torments others. The Golden Rule in the midst of this mutual misery has always been, not to do no harm, but as little as possible; and not to love one another, but as much as you can.”
I'll finish all the links later.
~Whitewave
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